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  Jehovah's Witnesses - Trained to Argue

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  although a cult, jehovah's witnesses should not be underestimated as to their smarts.

  sometimes, exiting jw's, due to indoctrination, feel a lot of guilt for leaving.

  of course, the governing body wouldn't have it any other way.. upon leaving, many for the first time feel a freedom to express themselves, which is as it should be.

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  paul from cleveland

  After being wrong so many times, it's embarrassing to think about it. I try not to argue with people anymore. Now I'm more interested in trying to understand why people interpret their postion the way they do. If I disagree with them, I'm obviously not seeing something they see. I would like to know what that is so I can understand their point of view. That's a lot more interesting to me than being right.
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  A question for Christians

  by paul from cleveland in

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  jesus said to 'go your way and sin no more' and the bible also says not to 'use the grace of god as an excuse to sin'.

  however the bible also says that 'all sin and fall short of the glory of god'.

  this means that we can only partially obey the commandment to be sinless.

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  paul from cleveland

  (It wouldn't hurt to keep it in your pants and save it for a treat once in awhile.)

  I'm sorry I ever mentioned it.
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  A question for Christians

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
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  jesus said to 'go your way and sin no more' and the bible also says not to 'use the grace of god as an excuse to sin'.

  however the bible also says that 'all sin and fall short of the glory of god'.

  this means that we can only partially obey the commandment to be sinless.

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  paul from cleveland

  Ynot, Envisioning you lying on the kitchen floor crying is painful to me. I know that kind of pain. I hope it didn't last long.

  I'm glad you've always felt God's love. I know you're a very loving person. I'm happy you're at peace now.
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  A question for Christians

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jesus said to 'go your way and sin no more' and the bible also says not to 'use the grace of god as an excuse to sin'.

  however the bible also says that 'all sin and fall short of the glory of god'.

  this means that we can only partially obey the commandment to be sinless.

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  paul from cleveland

  Are you born again? Without being a new creation you are unable to overcome the "flesh", the sinful nature.

  Have you invited Jesus directly through prayer into your heart?-- Have you accepted his invitation in return ?)

  No, I'm not born again but I've prayed very hard for this for years. What does it feel like? How do you know? How can you know? Are you sure?

  Masturbating?????

  Hi Mouthy (My new Grandma). I didn't say I necessarily have a "problem" with it... I just wrote that "someone once asked" about it. (I won't say who)
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  A question for Christians

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jesus said to 'go your way and sin no more' and the bible also says not to 'use the grace of god as an excuse to sin'.

  however the bible also says that 'all sin and fall short of the glory of god'.

  this means that we can only partially obey the commandment to be sinless.

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  paul from cleveland

  Thanks for all your answers. Forgive me for not quite getting it. I think my problem is with the idea of 'deliberate sin'. Isn't all sin deliberate? Don't we know we're sinning when we do it? If we didn't, wouldn't it just be a mistake? To me, trying not to 'sin deliberately' is an impossible task. I never know if there is some 'cut off' point where it's okay. For example, I know that when I'm driving down the road and going even one mile over the speed limit, I'm sinning by not obeying Ceasar's law. When I keep doing it, there is no longer any sacrifice left for my sin. To even look at a woman with lust, I've committed adultery in my heart yet I keep doing it. I know this may seem ridiculous but I really think about these things all the time. When I was a Witness, I always felt I had to do more. Enough was never enough. Now, it's kind of the same thing. I just can't stop deliberately sinning.
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  A question for Christians

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jesus said to 'go your way and sin no more' and the bible also says not to 'use the grace of god as an excuse to sin'.

  however the bible also says that 'all sin and fall short of the glory of god'.

  this means that we can only partially obey the commandment to be sinless.

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  paul from cleveland

  Jesus said to 'go your way and sin no more' and the bible also says not to 'use the grace of God as an excuse to sin'. However the bible also says that 'all sin and fall short of the glory of God'. This means that we can only partially obey the commandment to be sinless. This fills me with as much anxiety that I had while being a Witness. How can I know if I'm being "good enough" for God? Since I can't be sinless, there must be some arbitrary cut-off point where I'm just not good enough. There's got to be a point when I've just committed one to many sins. As someone once asked 'am I going to die because I masterbated one to many times'?.
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  The Probabilty of there being an Intelligent Designer part 2. (some responses)

  by hooberus in

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  on the thread "the probabilty of there being an intelligent designer" the poster "elsewhere" wrote:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/187282/1/the-probabilty-of-there-being-an-intelligent-designer.

  here is my basic reasoning on why i reject id:.

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  paul from cleveland

  In the natural world, every event has a cause. Therefore, the first event must have been caused by something outside of nature. Something supernatural. This supernatural cause is what I call God.
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  The Probabilty of there being an Intelligent Designer part 2. (some responses)

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
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  on the thread "the probabilty of there being an intelligent designer" the poster "elsewhere" wrote:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/187282/1/the-probabilty-of-there-being-an-intelligent-designer.

  here is my basic reasoning on why i reject id:.

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  paul from cleveland

  Existence just "is". The foundation of everything is built upon an illogical paradox. Until this is explained, I'm not going to rule anything out.
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  The Probabilty of there being an Intelligent Designer part 2. (some responses)

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on the thread "the probabilty of there being an intelligent designer" the poster "elsewhere" wrote:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/187282/1/the-probabilty-of-there-being-an-intelligent-designer.

  here is my basic reasoning on why i reject id:.

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  paul from cleveland

  The way I see it is that existence itself is a paradox. Using natural, observable laws, nothing should be here in the first place! Why is there something rather than nothing? The paradox of existence itself leaves a lot of room for the supernatural.
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  I passed the GED test!!!

  by noni1974 in

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  i went last week and took it after studying on my own for months.

  i thought i needed some help so i went and signed up for ged classes.

  they test you to see where you are.

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  paul from cleveland

  Congratulations Noni! I'm sorry to hear about your move to Kentucky though. It's been nice to get to know you. I really enjoyed our visit.